tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5757790087474609097.post4893856745575337906..comments2023-10-15T10:56:10.638+01:00Comments on Sheffield Quakers: A Testimony to Carbon Reduction?Gordon Fergusonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06021696929176035226noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5757790087474609097.post-66420584482825832002009-10-16T16:22:01.986+01:002009-10-16T16:22:01.986+01:00Hi, this was a useful post and comment section for...Hi, this was a useful post and comment section for me, thanks. I like the 10:10 site for it's simplicity as well. The problem of starting something like this, for myself at least, is that it feels so overwhelming and full of blame and shame. <br /><br />I mean I do some things, but not enough, and it's not a way of life or thinking in ways that it could be. And it feels like too much to change the world myself in the end...so trying to be creative with it or make it fun or like an adventure seems like a much more interesting proposition to me in the end than a punishment because we've all been naughty which seems like the underlying rhetoric to some of the earlier approaches/campaigns. <br /><br />So, one website that helped me think about little changes I could make through a series of "shows" (and yes, it is Darryl Hannah from "Splash" but she was one of the first to seriously get into vidcasting and I think it's brilliant for it's simplicity, obviously if you want to know more, you can do the research yourself but interesting intros) was: http://www.dhlovelife.com<br /><br />Likewise, I liked how simple the 10:10 site was. On the 10:10 site it gives options and makes it very clear where you need to at least start. And maybe even feeling good and creative about what I could be doing rather than feeling bad/should have done it already and if I ain't well then....That's why the Hannah site and stuff like the 10:10 are so interesting to me. The potential for simplicity rather than complication.<br /><br />NadineNadine Willshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17593387537794017417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5757790087474609097.post-35665766413129203182009-10-07T22:39:55.103+01:002009-10-07T22:39:55.103+01:00Craig, I feel the same. Words are easy – measurabl...Craig, I feel the same. Words are easy – measurable targets count for something.<br />Go here for some serious numbers: <a href="http://www.withouthotair.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.withouthotair.com/</a><br />I fear that many could use the campaign as mere tokenism – get a ten percent reduction in 2010, and then revert back to the same behaviour after that – perhaps just skipping that long haul flight next year might do it on its own.<br />Indeed, I think the campaign could usefully be restyled '10:10 - 10 percent per year for 10 years'. This would produce a reduction of around two thirds on current levels. <br />I intend to make this commitment.<br />However, I know I am a very profligate user of energy at the moment. We may not own a car or fly any more, but we still like to travel, and we like to keep our draughty old house very comfortable. So we can have some semblance of comfort left I also have a ten year plan to upgrade the house. So though we may have further to go than many, I hope to show what people with fairly normal middle class aspirations, who live in a typical older house, can achieve.<br />However, I do fear very much that these sorts of actions could lead to legalism and compulsion. It is essential that we first of all recognise that we have a spiritual problem, which I address in my latest post. I commend to you the <a href="http://www.quakerearthcare.org/Publications/WebPamphlets/slavery.htm" rel="nofollow">Earthcare pamphlet</a> that Simon mentioned in a recent post, which ends:<br />“Now is the time for Friends to explore these new revelations. We must move forward with joyful hearts to help heal our human communities, and to reconnect humanity to the rest of Creation.”<br />We must avoid the mistake we made last time of having a <a href="http://thefriend.org/articledisplay.asp?articleid=4221" rel="nofollow">'silly poor gospel'</a>Gordon Fergusonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06021696929176035226noreply@blogger.com